Dutch arrow, Yorkshire arrow, Swiss arrow or Gypsy arrow?

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Dutch arrow, Yorkshire arrow, Swiss arrow or Gypsy arrow?

Postby Ferret1959 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:54 am

http://www.viswiki.com/en/Swiss_arrow

Anyone use them?
I used them as a kid and tried making one from a ready made recently.
It wasn't like a home made one.
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Postby smallholder1 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:32 am

same as you made and used them as kids no where near as good as a catty.
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Postby boggie » Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:50 am

I was a scout leader till a couple of years ago (did it for 12year) and every summer camp i used to teach the kids how make them, me and the scouts got into lots of trouble of the other leaders and a few farmers and some of the parent.
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Postby fish » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:20 pm

ours were a bit different,

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Postby Ferret1959 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:00 pm

fish:54740 wrote:ours were a bit different,

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Hey Fish, yours is on the lines of an atlatl(sp). :smt117
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Postby fish » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:12 pm

in between eh! i made one today,first time in 20 years,need a bit of practice i recon!
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Postby Ferret1959 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:32 pm

When I tried the ready made arrows on the park they were rubbish, not enough weight and flew like a Catherine wheel.

I have some lengths of dowel I might try.

Failing that I think a coppicing trip might be on the books.

Some nice hazel near where we walk the dogs. :smt117
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Postby boggie » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:36 pm

bamboo garden canes are as good as anything for messing around. just find the straightest ones.
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Postby Dazv » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:18 pm

we still make them all the time if it flys funny we would put a lump of clay on the front. This should short it out!
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Postby Ferret1959 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:26 pm

Dazv:54757 wrote:we still make them all the time if it flys funny we would put a lump of clay on the front. This should short it out!


We used 8mm nuts. :smt117
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Postby fish » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:05 am

just a heavy point wil do it,a fave when i was a kid was a 4 inch nail lashed to the front.
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Postby fish » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:00 am

heres a few similar ideas to the dutch arrow:

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The Kestrosphendone - Dart-Firing Sling
"The kestros is mentioned in the writings of Livy and Polybius. It seems to have been invented around 168 BC. and was employed by some of the Macedonian troops of King Perseus in Third Macedonian war. The description is quite confusing:
The so-called cestrus was a novel invention at the time of the war with Perseus. The form of the missile was as follows. It was two cubits long, the tube being of the same length as the point. Into the former was fitted a wooden shaft a span in length and a finger's breadth in thickness, and to the middle of this were firmly attached three quite short wing-shaped sticks. The thongs of the sling from which the missile was discharged were of unequal length, and it was so inserted into the loop between them that it was easily freed. There it remained fixed while the thongs were whirled round and taut, but when at the moment of discharge one of the thongs was loosened, it left the loop and was shot like a leaden bullet from the sling, and striking with great force inflicted severe injury on those who were hit by it.
The exact construction of the Kestrosphendone remains somewhat mysterious. However, experimental reconstructions based on the available information have resulted in quite spectacular results. Nonetheless, the Kestrosphendone did not stand the test of time and seems to have been abandoned quite quickly."

another one is the plumbata,
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The first examples seem to have been carried by the Ancient Greeks from about 500 B.C. onwards, but the best-known users were the late Roman and Byzantine armies.
the last 4 minutes of this vid is good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPQGBsQAcb0
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Postby Ferret1959 » Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:05 pm

It's a good jod he don't say "fetch" to the dogs while the arrow is in flight. :smt011

Our 'Shadow' would be there before it landed. :smt049
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Postby polecat » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:16 pm

used to make these as a lad used a brass dart on the front and could throw it the length of a football field
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Postby fish » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:08 pm

good idea!
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Re: Dutch arrow, Yorkshire arrow, Swiss arrow or Gypsy arrow

Postby Navigator » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:46 pm

There you are people, a description of arrow throwing using a flightless stick AND the whole book is online. Have fun.

http://www.crossbowbook.com/page_243.html
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Re: Dutch arrow, Yorkshire arrow, Swiss arrow or Gypsy arrow

Postby Seth » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:33 pm

We used to call um bobby arrows
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